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Saturday, May 08, 2010

BoS Meeting Notes - 4/15/2010

Regular Meeting - Agenda

At this meeting, Supervisors learned:

  • The hope is that the new fire engine will be in service by Forks Community Days.
  • The public works garage preliminary plan presentation before the Planning Commission is not far off.
  • The Community Center website calendar now has content!
  • Waste Management wants to hold its rate through August of 2011.
  • The Forks Historical Society's (very attractive) photo display is now on view at the Community Center.
  • The Kesslersville Road stormwater project may be one of the few in Northampton County to get FEMA funding. 
  • Kimmel Bogrette may have some input into the amphitheater design. 
  • Two tot lots were approved!
  • And, Weis Market is on the move!

 Public Comments (non-agenda)

  • Brett Morrow - Howe Street resident said that he was before Supervisors two or three years ago with a problem in his neighborhood - an Easton Auto Body flatbed truck parked on the street by renters. The truck was leaking oil.  The truck is now smaller and is parked on gravel behind the house.  He has a new problem now.  Next door neighbors for the last three weeks have two full sized mattresses leaning up against the house.  "The property is not maintained whatsoever."  There are three basketball hoops in the roadway.  Mr. Morrow reminded the newly elected Supervisors that a lot of them walked his street when they were trying to get elected.  He said that neighborhood property owners are proud of their properties.  Yet, some have erected fences "right on" property lines and he thinks there may be zoning violations.  "I am an attorney and will be a pain if I have to be."  His real question though was what steps can he and his neighbors take to correct the eyesore next door to 830 Howe Street.  He said it is affecting the value of all of the properties.  Chuss suggested that he speak with Zoning Officer Tim Weis and Township Manager Rick Schnaedter.  Chuss said, "If need be, we'll address it."  Morrow added that one of his neighbors with a basketball hoop is an Easton policeman and he was told to move his hoop off of the street. 

Supervisors Comments

  • Supervisor Chuss welcomed all the EAHS students and told them that they will have to stay until the end of the meeting to get their papers signed.  He also said of the 2010 census that the PSATS (Pennsylvania State Association of Township Supervisors) response rate is up to 70%.  He requested that any who have not filled out their census forms please do since a lot of aid and decisions regarding voting are made based on the census.

Treasurer's Report - Egolf detailed the debits (cash paid out) since the last Supervisors' meeting.  The debits and transfers were approved with a 5:0 vote.  The outstanding debt is $11,428,627.

Standing Committee Reports:

  • Public Safety - Supervisor Egolf - reported that the committee met last night at 7:15 PM and covered quite a few things.  Chief Dorney said that they discussed National Night Out activities (for August) and concern over motorized scooters and young kids.  Information will be posted on the Township website.  Fire Chief Chapman said that the new fire engine begins production on 7/8/10 and the estimated completion date is 7/15/10.  He expects it to ship the beginning of August.  Chapman said that it should ship the first week of August and he hopes to have it in service in time for Forks Community Days. 
  • Public Works - Supervisor Howell - reported that the committee meeting was cancelled because there were no significant pending matters for discussion.  He reported, too, that the Planning Commission (PC) saw a presentation of the public works garage conceptual plan - by Kimmel & Bogrette.  The process is still in progress and there are no major delays.  There are still some issues to be decided regarding the vegetative roof, the type of radiant heat, and etc.   The preliminary plan presentation to the PC is not far off.  The public will be alerted.
  • Parks & Recreation - Supervisor Rogers - said that the committee met on April 7th and that Dan Martyak (president of FTYSO - Forks Township Youth Sports Organization) is working with Finance Manager Jim Farley to come to some agreement about an online signup tool for sports.  Also:
    • The walk around of the five acre parcel has been delayed since Martyak has been unable to schedule it with resident Eric Konecke.
    • Martyak reported that the FTAA (Forks Township Athletic Association) special liquor license was a "once and done" for the 250th celebration.
    • Martyak said that he is open to let BoS look at at the FTAA records at any time.
    • The Recreation Board reviewed their five year plan at their last monthly meeting.  A suggestion was made that the Recreation Board consult with the PC for feedback, ideas, and input.
    • Four minor changes to the Recreation Board Ordinance were made.  It is being typed and will be forwarded to Ed Moore of the Recreation Board.  Then it will be presented next month at the Parks & Recreation Standing Committee meeting.
    • The Community Center basketball season has ended.   It was the largest season ever - 30 teams.  Nine made it to the playoffs, four moved on to the semi-finals, and a girls team won a league championship.
    • Outdoor spring sports are now in session.  The Community Center will now start to host club sports such as AAU.  Rogers said that these sports are income producers.  There will be a summer basketball league from June through July - with 148 teams.  Last summer the Community Center "made about" $17,000 from the summer league.
    • Community Center coordinator, Don Miller wants some things considered re. Braden Park - a sand volley ball court, playground equipment, and the fee for the pavilion rental.  Schnaedter, Miller, and DPW Director Roberts are working on a proposal that includes placement, dimensions and costs.  The presentation target date is the May 6th BoS meeting. 
    • The Community Center website calendar will be updated with daily CC programs.  
    • The next meeting is Wednesday, May 5th at 6 PM in the Municipal Building.
  • Community Relations - Supervisor Chuss - said that the committee met on April 12th.  The newsletter is out to homes.  The next target dates are 7/1/10 (with May 15th as the article deadline) and 9/1/10.  December 1st is the target date for distribution of a Township calendar and a new map.  Chuss said that the committee will meet with New Horizons, the Township website provider, at its May 10 meeting (4:30 PM) in the Municipal Building.  (Note:  The Township website designer is New Arrival Studios.)  They will be discussing potential enhancements to the website.  Chuss also reported that Mr. Brian Lokitus is the president of Forks Community Days.  Other officers have been appointed.  Lokitus is also the president of the Business and Commerce Association of Forks (BCAF).  Sponsors and donations are being solicited for Community Days.  The committee meets the third Monday of the month at 7 PM at the Community Center.  The Community Days event is scheduled for the second weekend after Labor Day.  Jack Fatzinger of Stockertown brought some of his art work for consideration by the Township.  It was discussed and will be "considered possibly in the future."  Tim Weis (Zoning Officer) is working on a welcome packet for new residents.  Schnaedter is recommending that it be submitted to a PSATS contest for welcome packets.  Schnaedter thinks it will probably be an award winner.  The Forks Arts Society met last night at the Community Center and fifteen people attended.  All were enthusiastic.  A draft mission statement and bylaws are being worked on (in order to establish it as a formal organization of Forks), and one member is creating a Facebook page.   Forks painter Charles Hanson showed some of his artwork.  Chuss said it was  impressive.  The next meeting is Wednesday, May 19th at 7:30.  Merrit Shuler (sic) will do a bonsai demo. 
  • Finance & Administration - Supervisor Billings - said that the committee met yesterday at 6 PM.  Finance Manager Farley said they reviewed the 2008 Recreation Board audit.  It was received earlier this year from the auditors and it was deemed satisfactory with a few minor recommendations.  He is working with the Recreation Board to tighten controls.  Waste Management contacted the Township and said that it would like to hold last year's prices through August of 2011.  A final proposal will be sent to the Township sometime in May.  Billings said that the PEMA loan for the fire truck will be an agenda item next month.

Township Manager's Report - Schnaedter said that Supervisors have a copy of the $46,000 park planning grant application in their packets.  It is for the recreation land at Newlins and Richmond Roads and is a fifty percent match.  The needed resolution to go forward with the grant process was passed with a 5:0 vote.  Schnaedter also reported that the Forks Historical Society photo display is now on view at the Community Center.  He said that it is very attractive.  Lastly, Schnaedter said that the PSATS annual conference starts this Sunday.  Chuss and Billings may attend. 

Engineer's Report - Muller reported that the sanitary sewer draft specifications have been completed.  They have been delivered to DPW Director Roberts for review.  The Indian Trail grading and milling is now in design.  It has been reviewed and he and Roberts walked the site yesterday.  They will be trying not to touch curbing and inlets in order to save money.  The Sullivan Trail sanitary sewer is already in design.  He and Roberts have also walked it.  Some additional feet may need to be added to the project.  And, Muller reported that he spoke with FEMA and NORCO regarding the Kesslersville Road project.  It was applied for in 2008 and may be one of the few NORCO projects to get FEMA money.

Solicitor's Report - Kline - agenda items only.

UNFINISHED BUSINESS

Resolution # 100415-1 Approval of Timothy Belon Inter-municipal Liquor License Transfer (Karl Kline, Solicitor) - Kline explained that there was an April 1st hearing with Mr. Timothy Belon for an inter-municipal liquor license transfer.  It used to be that in order to get a liquor license in a municipality, it had to be purchased from another establishment in that municipality.  The rules were changed a few years ago to allow buying one from another municipality on the condition that a public hearing be held. 

This license transfer was approved by the Board and the formal resolution is needed by Mr. Belon to send to the PA Liquor Control Board.  The license is from Danielsville and is being sold to Delaware Drive LLC, the sole owner and manager.  Because the ownership was not mentioned at the hearing, Mr. Belon needs to prepare a supplemental application for submission to the Township and needs to be present at tonight's meeting to answer any questions from the Board.  Kline said that he took the liberty of revising the resolution to the LLC.

Belon said that he was not aware of the regulations at the time of the application. 

Chuss asked if the only change is the name.  The answer was "yes."

Billings asked Kline if the liquor license will be owned by the LLC.  He answered that it would be and added that one never wants to own a liquor license individually because if there is a liability because of someone misusing the alcohol, the liability would be against the individual owner - who would stand to lose all of his/her personal assets.

Howell made the motion to approve.  Egolf seconded.  The vote was 5:0.

Municipal Amphitheater (Rick Schnaedter, Township Manager) - Schnaedter noted that the bids for the amphitheater were opened a few weeks ago and the low bid was Bracy Contracting at $360,000.  The item was tabled and he was asked to explore other alternatives.  He, Mark Roberts, and Tim Weis met with Recreation Resources, Inc. of Kennett Square, PA, the designers of this Kannopolis, NC bandshell installation.   They got prices for a downsized structure, a concrete pad, and the construction of the building.  They found that there are too many variables based on the information at hand.  The Township would also need an architect and engineer since this is beyond the scope of its personnel. 

Chuss asked if other companies do amphitheaters.  Schnaedter said that he was not aware of them. 

Billings asked the expiration date on the current bid.  Schnaedter said that the bid is good through 6/8/10.   Chuss said that he is supportive of the amphitheater but is sounding like a "broken record" because the costs are pushing up to $500,000 and he has trouble grasping anything over $300,000.

Chuss asked if the Board wants to do anything with the Bracy bid or if it has an alternative?

Howell said that Kimmel Bogrette is building a (probably) award winning public works building for Forks.  He suggested that Schnaedter sit with Kimmel Bogrette and show what we have and ask for alternatives in materials - and other ways to reduce construction costs based on our plans.  Howell added that Martin Kimmel, because of his current engagement with the Township, will likely be quite reasonably priced. 

Chuss said he thought it a viable alternative.  He also wondered whether or not the Planning Commission (PC) can help or if Township Engineer Scott Muller can help or if Schnaedter or Muller can inquire of PSATS (Pennsylvania State Association of Township Supervisors) since others may be building amphitheaters.   

Former Supervisor Bonnie Nicholas said that if the Modern Concrete panels are removed and replaced with brick, it will save money.  She thought a laid off brick layer could do the same thing. 

Schnaedter said that he will see Tim Edinger (formerly of CMX) this weekend and "will run it by him."

Mark Mulrine of Wagon Wheel Drive said that he is an advocate of band shells.  He asked if we had already spent $500,000 looking into this.  Chuss answered that we have spent $49,000.  Mr. Mulrine asked where the funds will come from and Schnaedter replied that developers have paid fees into a fund for recreation and leisure activities.  Mr. Mulrine wondered if the funds must be spent by a certain time?  Howell remarked that that is a very interesting question.  Mulrine asked, "What's the rush to spend an awful lot of money here?"  Chuss said that a year (and $50,000) has already been spent on it and that developers might ask for their money back if it isn't spent on recreation.  

Mr. Mulrine suggested using the City of Easton's amphitheater.  It is only used by the city three months of the year.  A lot of money could be more appropriately spent on year round things.  The City of Easton would probably be more than happy to rent it to Forks. 

Using the Eddyside pool as an example, Howell noted that it is a wonderful pool and if Forks builds one, it will be the death knell of Eddyside.  He said that he sits on a number of boards in Easton and "a large nut to crack is to get people from Forks and Palmer to come to Easton."  They don't.  The Easton amphitheater is wonderful asset that they choose to ignore.  Forks' amphitheater will be paid for in large part by local businesses. 

Mr. Mulrine asked who pays for the bands and the cleaning?  Chuss said that we have staff available for that and in addition the fledgling Forks Arts Society (now renamed the Forks Area Arts Society) will be finding acts for the amphitheater. 

Chuss said that the Nazareth bandshell feedback is positive.  This will bring more activities for the "age challenged" Forks residents.

Howell said that when it is built, "we must bring people to it."  He spoke with a Musicfest promoter who would like to have "a pay per view event" in the new amphitheater.

Egolf made a motion to give the Township Manager permission to continue researching the construction of an amphitheater to to get a report to the Board within a month.  Howell seconded.  The vote was 5:0.  Billings made a motion to table this action item.  It passed 5:0.

For more details, read Madeleine Mathias (Express-Times).

NEW BUSINESS

Weis Market – Approval and execution of developer’s agreement (Karl Kline, Solicitor) - Kline explained that on April 19, 2007 Weis Market got its final conditional plan approval.  There were a number of challenges by property owners - all of which were dismissed -  then there was a recession and a decline in the real estate market. 

Weis is now ready to move forward.  The land development improvement agreement is signed.  The Township has a certificate of liability insurance and the Letter or Credit has been received.  They are ready to proceed.  The last obstacle is the needed PennDOT highway occupancy permit (HOP) for the improvements to the intersection of Uhler and Sullivan.   According to Mr. O'Hara from Weis, they are prepared to move forward and expect to have the HOP in place in the next 30 days.  They are pursuing a parallel path by doing their drawings and engineering and getting their permits in line and hope to open for business in early February or March of 2011.

Chuss asked when the ground breaking will take place.  O'Hara said that they are prepared to start the site work when the final approval is in process - so it can start in the next month or so. 

Howell asked if there will be any issue regarding which road to use when doing the sitework, Ian or Braden?  They are required under the agreement to use Ian.  Kline noted that that is why Ian was not paved with a top coat and Braden was. 

Chuss remarked that it's great.

Howell observed that the Giant has awoken and prepared for competition.  Weis has a wonderful location and will attract lots of shoppers from the north, east, and west.  It will have gasoline.  He suggested an upscale wine and spirits store like the one on Route 248 for the 8,000 - 10,000 square feet of store to be built later. 

Howell moved to approve.  Egolf seconded and the vote was 5:0.

Read Madeleine Mathias (Express-Times) for more details.

Resolution # 100415-2 Dedication of Street - Creek Court – Estates at Bushkill Creek (Karl Kline, Solicitor) - Kline said that this subdivision off of Bushkill Drive has one street completed.  It was approved by the former Township Engineer.  Kline said that it is appropriate for the Board to officially accept it and to make it part of the Township street system.  The resolution was approved 5:0.

Approval for the Braden Airport and Vista Estates Park Equipment (David Billings, Supervisor) - Billings sought approval for play equipment at both Braden Park and Vista Estates.  He said that it is a continuation of the plan started by Howell and Egolf in 2008 and that it was reviewed by the Recreation Board.  Vista Estates petitioned the Board in 2008 and sent a letter of support from the residents and the neighborhood association. 

Chuss said that a recommendation by a subcommittee does not imply approval and that this is putting the cart before the horse.  He called it "premature at this time" since there is no way to know what is and isn't planned and the fate of the parkland at Richmond and Newlins is still unknown.  Also, the bikepath work is in progress.  He added that he is confused by the agenda topic and that it should be before the Parks & Recreation Standing Committee for recommendations. 

Billings said that this has gone through the process and that the Vista Estates tot lot will cost $14,000 out of the $1.3 million recreation fund - and it is highly appropriate to approve.

Howell said that Vista Estates park was part of the initial plan.  There were three parks planned, Vista, Penn's Ridge, and Ramblewood.  Ramblewood was abandoned and the money was donated to the Forks Elementary School park project.  The Recreation Board five year plan includes Vista Estates - it is to serve a dense community and take pressure off of the main Community Park.  When Braden Park was initially introduced, Don Miller was not in favor of it.  Now he wants it to supplement the facilities at Braden, a destination park.  In fact, he reports that the park is not "saleable" for large events because it has no play equipment and no volley ball court. 

Rogers asked if the Braden request was separate from the Miller/Roberts/Schnaedter effort or if it is to coincide with it. 

Chuss said that sand is not cheap and that volley ball courts require special sand.  He wants to know the costs before approval.  He said that he has been screaming for a five year plan from the Recreation Board.  The one they have is a draft.  He offered that it "bothers him badly" that the Vista Estates people will be screaming about the proximity of the Newlins Park.  He has no objection to Braden because it is an established park. 

Howell said that Vista also has a park, the baseball field, and no residents have complained about it.  What is intended to be installed is a 2-12 year old play area with a swing set - in a remote area.  The Township already knows the costs of every piece of apparatus that is to go there.  Howell has a seen a draft of the five year plan and it deals with macro issues like a field house and a bridge over Sullivan Trail.  Little kids get stuck in the bureaucracy of Boards of Supervisors.  He finished by saying that he does not want to push this recreation project into a "bureaucratic dust bin."

Cornelius Brons, president of the Vista Estates Homeowners Association, said that he promised the mothers in the neighborhood that he would look into asking about the park.  They want it.  There are many young families in Vista and the Remaly tract is not decided.  They want something for young children.  He noted that the "vibrations" are down on the DPW garage plans and that there is land on Crown Drive.  There is an adjoining Segal & Morel tract whose families may come up and use the Vista tot lot.  It will benefit three neighborhoods, Lafayette Estates, Segal & Morel and Vista Estates.  There are traffic issues with the ballpark - cars flying down Richmond Road and flying down Winchester - there are no stop signs.  Nothing stops traffic issues.  What Mr. Brons would like is a tot-lot in a secure area of the neighborhood where little kids don't have to cross the street.  Currently mothers are driving their kids to the school playground.

Chuss said that he wants everything to be in the Community Park because it is easier to police.  He said too, that he has had complaints about the Penn's Ridge park... "Why are they getting one.  I want one too.  I'm as far as they are." 

Billings made a motion to approve the Vista Estates play structure (for toddlers ages 5-12) and swing set (for toddlers ages 5-12) and, if possible, some benches and picnic tables - all capped at $15,000.  Egolf seconded.

Egolf noted in discussion that the problem is that the people who will use the equipment are not present.  If it were for sports, the auditorium would be full of coaches and commissioners.  There are no 5-10 year olds here.  He has been an advocate for kids and has been working on this for years.  In fact, he said he thought it a "no brainer - who would not want to spend some money out of a pot of nearly $2 million - for kids?"  From what he gathers sitting on the Board, there are very few people in Forks who think kids deserve swing sets.  If the location is wrong, move it.  It is not the astrodome - just a simple swing set for a bunch of kids who live in the community - no taxpayer money is being used.  He added that if there were a room full of kids here with their moms and dads, there would be a resounding "YES." 

Rogers said that her issue is not with children.  She just wanted to know if the two (Braden) issues are separate efforts of if they are going to be joined.  Howell noted that the motion is on Vista Estates.

Chuss remarked, "Ready, spend, plan is not fiscally responsible." 

The vote was 3:2 with Chuss and Rogers casting the nays.

Billings made a second motion to purchase a Braden play structure (for toddlers ages 5-12), a swing set (for toddlers ages 5-12), a seesaw, benches, charcoal grills, and a volley ball court with a cap at $25,000.   If more money is needed because of the volleyball court, the Board can be approached again.  Howell seconded.

Rogers asked if the efforts will be coordinated?  Billings replied that the current efforts would be leveraged. 

Chuss asks if $25,000 is enough.  Schnaedter said that there are some location concerns.  DPW Director Roberts offered that at Penn's Ridge there is a 45 x 90 foot safety zone.  Miller's plan will need some shifting. 

The vote was 4:1 with Chuss casting the nay.

For more, please read Madeleine Mathias (Express-Times).

Executive Session - There was an Executive Session to discuss potential litigation, potential acquisition of real estate, and litigation.  No action was taken during or after the executive session and the meeting was adjourned. 

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Sunday, January 10, 2010

2010 BoS Re-Org Meeting and Regular Meeting - Notes

SWEARING-IN OF NEWLY ELECTED OFFICIALS

Prior to the start of the BoS Re-Organizational meeting, (newly sworn-in herself) Magisterial District Judge Jackie Taschner was kind enough to come to Forks to swear in our two newest Supervisors - Michele Rogers and David Billings, our new Tax Collector - Anne Bennett-Morse, and our newest Elected Auditor, Sandra Hanks. 

ANNUAL RE-ORGANIZATION MEETING

Every second class township is required to meet on the first Monday of the new year (unless if falls on January 1st) to re-organize and to elect a chairman, a vice chairman, and a secretary/treasurer.  This year the Board, did just that, it elected officers and voted on positions and appointments - although some were not unanimous and some were accomplished in exceptionally faster than normal re-org meeting speeds.   (See Bill White - Morning Call - for Northampton County Council Sunshine Act rule bending.)

For 2010:  

  • Chairman - Erik Chuss - Nominated by Egolf/seconded by Rogers - 4:1 Billings cast the nay.
  • Vice Chairman - Michele Rogers - Nominated by Egolf/seconded by Chuss - 4:1 Billings cast the nay.
  • Secretary/Treasurer - Robert Egolf - Nominated by Rogers/seconded by Chuss - 5:0.

PNC Bank and PLGIT were voted in as depositories for Forks Township. Signatures of either two Supervisors or one Supervisor and the Township Manager are required for withdrawals from accounts including from the general fund, the utility fund, the escrow account, the tax account, etc.

  • Township Manager - Rick Schnaedter
  • Assistant Secretary and Assistant Treasurer of the General Fund - NONE
  • Township Solicitor - Karl Kline ($150/hr - up from $145 last year)
  • Alternate Township Solicitor - Steve Goudsouzian ($150/hr - up from $145 last year)
  • Solicitor for Zoning Hearing Board - Michael Shay
  • Engineering Firm - Gilmore & Associates - 3:1:present (vote withheld)
  • Township Engineer - Scott C. Muller - Gilmore & Associates 3:1:present (vote withheld)
  • Auditing Firm - France, Anderson, Basile & Company, P.C.
  • Earned Income and Local Services Tax Collector - Mary Ann Kessler
  • Assistant Collector - Carolyn Bucar
  • Business Privilege Tax Collector - Sandi Rossi

The 2010 meeting schedules for the Board and the Planning Commission were set. The Board of Supervisors will meet on the first and third Thursdays of the month at 7:30 PM with a possible third meeting (if necessary) on the fourth Thursday. Thirty or 60 minute workshops may be scheduled before or immediately after the regular meetings.

The meeting schedules for the Standing Committees (of the BoS) were established as follows:

  • Public Safety - second Wednesday - 7:15 PM - Egolf is the senior member 
  • Finance & Administration - second Wednesday - 6:00 PM - Billings is the senior member 
  • Community Relations - second Monday - 4:30 PM - Chuss is the senior member 
  • Parks & Recreation - first Wednesday - 6:00 PM - Rogers is the senior member 
  • Public Works - second Monday - 7:30 AM - Howell is the senior member 

All meetings will be held at the Municipal Building.

The Planning Commission will meet on the second Thursday at 7:00 PM and the workshop sessions, which will be treated in the same manner as regular meetings, are set for the fourth Tuesday of the month at 7:00 PM.

PEMA’s Emergency Operations Plan was re-adopted.  It is unchanged from last year.

More appointments:

  • Emergency Management Coordinator - Richard Bassett
  • Assistant Emergency Management Coordinators - Tim Weis & Bryan Weis

The Board authorized payment of routine bills that may have penalties or interest if they are not paid before the next BoS meeting.

The Municipal Building's daily hours (open the public) were set at 7:30 AM - 4:30 PM Monday through Friday. Office employees’ hours range between 7:30 AM to 4:30 PM.  Hours for the Director of Public Works and for Public Works employees can vary from the standard hours (due to inclement weather, etc.)

Yet More Appointments:

  • Fire Chief - Charles Chapman
  • Deputy Fire Chief - Dan Dawson
  • Zoning Enforcement Officer, Building Code Official - Tim Weis
  • Flood Plain Permit Officer - Scott Muller - Gilmore & Associates - 4:1 (Billings cast the nay)
  • Assistant Zoning Officers - Matt Miller & Loretta Fuehrer 
  • Sewer Enforcement Officer - Scott Muller - Gilmore & Associates - 4:1 (Billings cast the nay)
  • Electrical Inspectors - Keystone Electric

The wages & benefits packages of both the uniformed (police) and non-uniformed employees were re-affirmed.

The following appointments was made:

  • Vacancy Board - David Hoff - one year term - (incumbent and only applicant - no interview)

The Zoning Hearing Board will meet as needed on the second and third Mondays at 7:30 PM.  (Zoning Hearing notices are advertised on an individual basis.)

Lastly, these appointments were made:

  • Board of Supervisors' Voting Representative at PSATS (Pennsylvania State Association of Township Supervisors) Annual Convention - Rick Schnaedter
  • Principal to attend TRCOGS (Two Rivers Council of Governments) quarterly meetings - David Howell
  • Alternate to attend TRCOGS - Bob Egolf

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REGULAR BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING

Agenda

Public Comments (non-agenda) - none

Supervisors Comments - Egolf welcomed the new Supervisors, Billings and Rogers, and told them that they will enjoy the experience.  Chuss agreed with the sentiment.

Treasurer's Report - Egolf detailed the debits (cash paid out) since the last Supervisors' meeting.  The debits and transfers were approved with a 5:0 vote.  The Township's current outstanding debt is $7,738,560.

Standing Committee Reports:

  • Public Safety - Supervisor Egolf - said that there have been no meetings since the last BoS meeting and the next meeting will be on the second Wednesday of the month at 7:15 PM.
  • Public Works - Supervisor Howell - reported that the first meeting of 2010 will be on the second Tuesday of the month at 7:30 AM.  DPW Director Mark Roberts announced that Sean Quick and Terry Hoff (sic) have taken and passed the National Certified Playground Safety Inspectors Test.  The certification expires in three years - when they can be retested.  They will make recommendations on repairs/replacement of all playground equipment.  Egolf suggested that a letter of congratulations be sent from the BoS.
  • Parks & Recreation - Supervisor Rogers - skipped over by the chair- no report. 
  • Community Relations - Supervisor Chuss - said that the next meeting will be this coming Monday at 4:30 PM.  He went on to say that in the past the primary responsibility of the committee has been the newsletter and the township map.  Chuss suggested that the committee's focus might be expanded to include the establishment of a (citizen group) Forks Township arts council.  This would be structured like the Forks Historical Society and entail:
    • Identifying township artists and promoting their works.
    • Placing sculpture, artwork, and memorials in parks and municipal buildings.
    • Identifying acts and events for the bandshell.

Howell offered that he is on the Board of ACE (Arts Community of Easton) and there are a number of members who are residents of Forks.  He suggested that Forks residents who are members of ACE would probably like to participate (perhaps as a Forks subcommittee of ACE.)  ACE wields influence in the region and that could be beneficial for Forks.  The major mission of ACE is arts education and it is a non-profit with grant programs.  Chuss said that it will be talked about at the "subcommittee."

Chuss then said that he would like to bring the newly formed Forks Business & Commerce Association under the chair of the Community Relations Committee.  He said this move would allow different members of the Board to participate in the organization. 

Howell explained that both he and Township Manager Schnaedter are members, however, it is not a Township group, it is a private group.  It is the association's board and he is a board member.

Chuss argued that he wanted the position to rotate.  Again, Howell explained that it is not an appointment by the Township but a term appointment per the the association's bylaws and rules.  He added that he and Schnaedter helped to found the group and that is why he was selected for their board (for this year.)  It is in a sense, an honorarium.   

Howell said that in 2006, when his standing committee structure was accepted by the Board, there was a sixth committee, the Economic Development Committee.  It was not put into place at that time because it was a difficult task to design a committee that would not be part of the rotation.  He said that should the Forks Business & Commerce Association be tucked in anywhere it should be in the Finance & Administration Standing Committee.

Howell offered that the association is to help bring businesses to Forks and to help sponsor events within the community (ie. in the amphitheater).  Chuss insisted that the association should be under Community Relations.  Howell said he didn't understand the problem since he is on both the association board and the Community Relations Standing Committee. 

Chuss asserted that he has been involved in economic development since 1993 and knows people in the group and will get in touch with them himself...

Howell reminded Chuss that the association has only been in existence for two and a half months and has a constitution and bylaws.  Chuss said, "They chose you?  I thought we chose you."  Howell again told him that "they" nominated him.  He asked what the problem is.  Chuss said he disagrees that Howell should serve his full term on the association board.  Chuss said, "They don't dictate to us.  We tell them who we will assign and allow everyone on the Board an opportunity."  Howell said that they may do that at the Township's suggestion but "they have spoken for the first year."

Schnaedter said that at an association executive committee meeting Howell was elected to sit on their executive board but that in terms of attendance, any Supervisor can attend the meetings.  He further explained that the Township is not guaranteed a seat on the executive board.  Chuss followed with... "So they dictate to us who is going to be on their economic... inaudible?" 

Schnaedter offered to provide the Board with another copy of the association's bylaws.  He said they have only had two meetings so far.

  • Finance & Administration - Supervisor Billings - said that the next meeting will be on January 13th at 6 PM.

Township Manager's Report - Schnaedter announced that the Forks Quarterly has won a PSATS second place award - for the second time in three years - in the 42nd Annual Township Citizens Communication Contest.  He thanked the staff for their assistance and participation in earning the award.

Also, Schnaedter said that he has received a request from Bob Reagan of the US Census Bureau for an out of the way spot in the Community Center to put a table and a few chairs where residents' questions regarding the 2010 census can be answered.   There will be a notice on the Township website.  There were no objections by the Board.

Engineer's Report - Muller - had no report.  He said that he has been working with Keystone Engineering and Township staff.  Billings asked if he was up to speed on any projects including those on tonight's agenda.  Muller said that he was not.  Billings said that he is disappointed that Muller did not "jump in" earlier.  Howell remarked that he is disappointed that he (Muller) was not at any of the recent Planning Commission and BoS meetings. 

Schnaedter said that he advised Muller that it was not necessary for him to be at any earlier meetings because Keystone was present. 

Kline noted that catching up will be a daunting task and he compared it to taking a drink from a fire hose.  Some of the projects started in 1999 and have a long history. 

Egolf said that he was pleased that Kline said that as he wanted Muller to know that this was not a contentious Board.  He added that the Township does not want cursory work... it wants "full depth" and that's what he thinks the Township will get.  He welcomed Muller to his new position as Township Engineer. 

Chuss asked Muller if he will look at the public works garage project in the next couple of weeks and provide any thoughts he might have.  Schnaedter said that he told Muller that until the Township gets the next phase from Kimmel Bogrette, there is nothing to review.  Muller was already given a copy of the sketch drawings. 

Muller said that he has indeed been working in the background. 

Solicitor's Report - Kline - reported on that on December 21, 2009, the PA Commonwealth Court validated Forks Zoning Hearing Board's decision in favor the of the Township and against KMRD in its Procedural Challenge of Forks zoning ordinances.  KMRD has 30 days to appeal to the Supreme Court.  If appealed, the State Supreme Court may or may not agree to hear the case.

Read the decision here - large file.   For more details read these articles:  Tony Nauroth -
December
23rd - Express Times and Riley Yates - December 24th - Morning Call.

The KMRD Substantive Challenge, the one that alleges that Forks zoning is discriminatory, is still in the Northampton County Court of Common Pleas.

UNFINISHED BUSINESS

None

NEW BUSINESS

Bethlehem Army Reserve Center - tabled previous meeting (Tim Weis, Zoning Officer) - For a full hour the Board asked questions of the Army Corps of Engineers and members of the Reserve Center who were present.  Not everyone was on the same page much of the time. 

Supervisors Howell and Billings asked about things that have concerned residents - traffic, live ammunition, solar panels, parking, use of the facility, number of employees, plans for future helicopters, types of vehicles, new hires from Forks, taxes, recreation fees, emergency plans, water recycling, etc. 

The Army Reserve's plans call for the use of humvees on Township roads, no live ammo (but weapons), garage space for trucks and equipment, unheated storage, a 32 foot anti-terrorism set-back, an assembly hall, two stories, no solar panels, no water recycling, etc.  There will be 22 full-time employees and the site will not be manned 24/7.  It will house Bethlehem's Wilson Kramer Army Reserve Center and a maintenance shop.  The move is part of BRAC, the federal Base Realignment and Closure program.

It will be built to LEEDS silver standards but, because of the cost, not certified. 

So far, no contact has been made with Police Chief Dorney to devise an emergency action plan.

The Army Corps has indicated that it intends to use infiltration for returning storm water to the ground.  Kline said that per the October Keystone review letter, approvals by outside agencies are needed as is a hold harmless clause regarding the infiltration drainage.  Kline said that beneath the site are Karst limestone formations and since that is like having Swiss cheese underground, flooding that Karst limestone with water is not a good idea.  It is asking for sinkhole trouble.  The public sewer line runs nearby but not through the area where voids have been found. 

On top of adding the Karst warning, the Keystone letter recommended signature blocks and that the LVPC add signatures to the plan. 

In discussion of possible economic benefits, Howell noted the extraordinary amount of tax exempt property already in Forks Township.  There are three cemetery associations, four churches, two elementary schools, Lafayette College property, LV Airport property, the Stryker Brigade, all the Township owned land, and the largest middle school in Pennsylvania.  He said that although two years ago, he voted "yes" for the Stryker Brigade, he was going to vote "no" now because he thought that this project is not giving back to the community. 

There was a question about whether or not the recreation fees that all other developers pay will be paid by the Army.  Howell suggested that if they are not paying the recreation fee, that they at least volunteer a stipend to the Township.  They will not be hiring residents, they will not be buying diesel fuel here (we have no dealers), they will not being paying local taxes, but they will hire a catering service to do their meals, and they will be using our infrastructure and emergency services.

The vote to approve the lot consolidation (two lots are needed) and the vote to approve the land development plan both passed 3:2.

Please read Christopher Baxter (Morning Call) and Tony Nauroth (Express Times) for more details. 

Alfero Construction Company Land Development (Karl Kline, Solicitor) - Mr. Nick Alfero told the Board that there was a miscommunication and that he was not aware that his land development project was previously on the agenda for the PC or for the BoS.  His contracted engineering firm, RT Consulting & Engineering, did not let him know.

He said that he was born in Forks Township and lived here for a time as well.  In fact, his company started in Forks Township.  His project will move the Alfero Construction Company back to Forks - on property it owns on Kuebler Road. 

Kline said that generally the issues cited by the Township engineer are resolved before projects are presented to the PC and the BoS so as not to waste time.  In this case, there was no response from Alfero's engineer to Keystone's letter.  Because of this and because the (planning) clock was running, both the PC and BoS had to reject the land development project in order to avert "deemed approval."

Dean Turner, Planning Chair, added that there was no presentation to the PC of the plan and therefore no explanation of what Mr. Alfero wanted to do in Forks.

Mr. Alfero said that he has new drawings that should satisfy all of the deficiencies cited in the Keystone letter.  It was decided that he will redo his plan submission as a brand new submission and once again pay the fee ($150).  Kline advised him to be certain that his engineer attends the PC meeting and addresses any and all review comments promptly.

Resolution # 100104-1 & 100104-2 – Waiver of employee contributions to pension plans (Karl Kline, Solicitor) - Kline explained that the Township auditors (France, Anderson, Basile & Company, P.C.) recommend doing this annually as opposed to doing multiple years at a time.  One resolution is for the police department in 2010 and the other is for the non-uniform employee pension plan for 2009 and 2010 (since it was not done last year.)  The police department contract expires in 2012.

Billings made the motion to pass the resolutions and Howell seconded.  The vote was 5:0.

Scheduling of candidate interviews for Boards and Commissions - After much discussion, the Board settled on Tuesday, January 12th at 7 PM for the Planning Commission and Zoning Hearing Board candidate interviews. 

This will get candidates for the PC chosen before the PC runs into quorum difficulties.  The PC has a seven member board with three openings.  Should they hold a meeting before at least one of the seats is filled and one current member is unable to attend, the meeting would need to be cancelled for lack of a quorum.

On January 21st, at 6 PM prior to a regular BoS meeting, the Board will interview candidates for the Recreation Board. 

The hope is that members will be chosen the same night as the interviews.  Schnaedter will notify the applicants of the interview dates and times.

All interviews are open to the public and will be held in the Municipal Building meeting room.

Executive Session - Held for personnel and litigation reasons.  No action was taken during or after the session and the meeting was adjourned. 

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Sunday, December 27, 2009

BoS Meeting Notes - 12/17/2009

Regular Meeting (agenda)

Four plus hours of meeting resulted in Supervisors voting 4:1 for the public works garage concept produced by Kimmel-Bogrette Architecture.  There was much discussion between the Board and residents who own properties near the intended site.  For more details, please read Sara Satullo's Express Times article.

On this night, Supervisors also approved a new fire truck purchase, a renewal of the fire coverage contract with Stockertown, and the 2010 budget.  There will be no tax increase for Forks property owners in 2010! 

Supervisors also learned that developer Gary Strausser has filed yet another lawsuit against the Township and, this time, also against Township Solicitor, Karl Kline, and Board Chairman, David Howell.  Strausser alleges that he has been deprived of his constitutional rights - because the Township is enforcing its cash escrow policy and filing deadlines.  See Michael Buck, Express Times, and Christopher Baxter, Morning Call for more.

It was also a night of retirements from the Board and from staff.  Supervisors Miller and Nicholas were presented with plaques and words of appreciation for their years of service to the Township.  Miller served on the Board for 24 years.  Nicholas served one term as a Supervisor and before that was on the Zoning Hearing Board (for one plus terms).  Township Engineer, Fred Hay/Keystone Engineering, said that Keystone worked for the Township for 13 years. 

Miller listed some of his accomplishments including the expansion of the park from 20 acres to over 50 acres, the creation of a park plan (by URDC) that has been followed in the development of the park, the recreation path, the log cabin, and the park arboretum.  The arboretum theme is "trees around the world."  Miller said that Forks has one of the nicest community parks in the Lehigh Valley.

Nicholas thanked everyone for "tolerating" her for the last six years.  She said that the Township has a really good group of employees and that she is leaving the Township in good hands.

Hay said that being associated with Forks Township for the past 13 years has been his (and Keystone's) privilege.

Public Comments (non-agenda) -

  • David Hoff, former Forks Supervisor, addressed the Board and spoke to Don Miller's first election 24 years ago.  He congratulated Miller for serving for 24 years and said that Miller only got into politics because they (the Recreation Board and the Athletic Association) were convinced that they needed someone to watch out for recreation - and that he did.  Hoff said that Miller has served the community well and he thanked him on behalf of "the generations of children and adults yet to come" who will enjoy what he has done in the community.
  • Ken Nagy, Forks resident, spoke first to what he referred to as "airport expansion."  He said that larger fuel tanks and a larger terminal constitute expansion.  Mr. Nagy said that this expansion deals with traffic at Braden and Queen City airports noting that it would be foolish for the Airport Authority to sink money into Braden without a some sort of return.  He said that the Airport Authority is really talking about expansion, including increased traffic and night operation.  Mr. Nagy said that the property the airport sits on, because of the coming Tatamy/Palmer Route 33 interchange, is going to be worth a heck of a lot of money.  He said that Allentown desperately wants the Queen City land for its tax base and that Braden will likely see some transfer of traffic.  He said that he "would like to see the community take the land back."

Mr. Nagy also addressed "open space" and asked the BoS to ask Solicitor Kline to write a letter to Northampton County Council saying that they have reneged on the open space contract and that Forks wants its 1/4 point back - so that it can be used for its own projects.  The monies paid for open space are now part of the County's general fund.  He said that he is aggravated by projects outside of the county receiving funding while County farms sit on the list.  Mr. Nagy said that he is disappointed that "you people" did not push harder for the open space committee to do something.  He suggested that BoS meeting nights be changed so that some of "you" can attend County meetings (held on the same nights).  He said that what is in the newspapers is not what goes on there at all. 

  • Sandy Hanks, Forks resident, asked the Board if the Township has an ordinance that deals with weight limits on certain roads.  In particular, she said that she saw an open type tractor trailer (like a grain truck) turn onto Frost Hollow Road.  Chief Dorney said that Frost Hollow is a State road and that if she sees another truck on it of that size she should call Forks police.   He said that the department has two officers on day shift who are certified in truck weight limits.   Mark Roberts, DPW Director said that there were salt deliveries today and that the truck she saw was one of the delivery trucks. 

Mrs. Hanks also asked who is responsible for the care of sidewalks in Riverview Estates?  She said that there is a portion of sidewalk missing on Winchester Dr. and there is a utility box in the way.  She said people run there at night and someone recently fell.   She said that it is a safety issue and should be marked with yellow tape or a saw horse.  Howell said that Winchester belongs to the developer and has not yet been dedicated to the Township.  Township Engineer Fred Hay said that the completion of the sidewalk is on the punch list for Riverview Recreation Phase 1.  It is Strausser property and the improvements must be done by June 2010.  Hay added that most of the improvements on the punch list have been completed.

  • Jeff Sargent (sic), of Northeast ITS told the Board that his company has submitted drawings and a letter to the Township.  They are laying 350-400 miles of fiber (cable) from Ohio through New Jersey.  He said that he was at this meeting as a "courtesy call."  He said that the letter contains contact information and a brief synopsis of the project.  Mr. Sargent said that although this is being done in state rights-of-way, they are contacting all the townships impacted.  He said that when they come through an area they place hangers on doors.  The hangers have 800 numbers and contact information.  This west to east line is now in Mercer County and it will cut through Forks near Bushkill Park Drive and then go east to Easton.  There will, at a minimum, be a meeting with PA One Call.  They notify all the utilities in the townships.  The majority of the line is installed by drilling - it is bored and the fiber is pulled through.  Cross-country lines have indicator posts installed but in towns, curbs are marked instead.
  • Nancy Walters, Forks resident, urged Supervisors to pursue a more aggressive path for re-cycling.  She suggested that Forks consider, in addition to its existing curbside recycling, a recycling center.  She offered that Bethlehem's facility is nice and is on a relatively small piece of land.  It generates an income stream, part time jobs, and mentoring positions for young people.  She thought that the Frost Hollow property (where the current DPW garage is) might be a suitable site.  She also encouraged the Board to sponsor e-waste and hazardous waste programs. 

Mrs. Walters also said that she is involved with the Kiwanis Club.  She asked that, since
we are all aging" that recreation for adults become a focus. 

And, she told the Board that the YMCA daycare has created a safety hazard on Old Sullivan Trail.  Cars are parked on both sides of the street and parents - "fifty percent of the time on their cell phones" - come "sailing out of there" and cannot see.  Howell said that it is a problem and that two SUVs going in opposite directions on the street would probably hit mirrors.  He said that the Public Safety Committee is aware of the problem and will discuss the sight line further.

Howell also said that she will be contacted when discussions begin on the second life of the Frost Hollow public works site.

Supervisors' Remarks:

  • Supervisor Nicholas said that she attended the Community Days committee meeting last week and learned that Susan and Harry Bennett, current joint chairs of the committee, are moving from Forks to Palmer Township.  The bylaws require residency - and happily the Bennetts have offered to help after they move.  Neal Fehnel has offered to vice chair the committee.  A chairperson is being sought.  Howell suggested that he and Township Manager Schnaedter use their association with the Forks Business and Commerce Association to "put some muscle on the project" - but citizen participation is needed as well.  Susan Bennett said that the Forks Township Community Days now has non-profit status and has applied for grants - some businesses, like Crayola, require a list of officers.  On that application she wrote "to be announced" for president, for vice president she wrote Neal Fehnel, for secretary, Dan Whiting (sic), and for treasurer there is no one.  At the moment, the committee has an impressive steering committee.  She said that the time to act is now since letters seeking funds go out in March.  Mrs. Bennett suggested that Nicholas become president of the group since she has been involved since its inception.  Howell expressed his appreciation of the work that the Bennetts have done every year. 

Treasurer's Report - Egolf detailed the debits (cash paid out) since the last Supervisors' meeting. The debits and transfers were approved with a 5:0 vote. The Township's current outstanding debt is $7,739,994.

Standing Committee Reports (meetings are open to the public - see the official Township calendar for dates and times)

  • Public Safety - Supervisor Howell - said that this was his last year as chairman of the committee.  Next year, Supervisor Egolf will be the chairman and the 2010 meeting times will be set at the Re-Org meeting on January 4th.  The main topic at this past week's meeting was the fire and vehicle rescue assistance agreement with the Borough of Stockertown.  It is on tonight's agenda.
  • Public Works - Supervisor Chuss - reported that the committee met on December 8th and reviewed the DPW garage site plans, any concerns about it, and any potential cost savings.  Also under review was the Meadow Lane property issue.  Chuss said that this was his last meeting as chairman of the committee and that next year Howell will hold that position.  He said that this has been a good year and thanked everyone for their help and support. 
  • Parks & Recreation - Supervisor Egolf - said that, with the help of Supervisor Nicholas, this was an extremely successful year.  Because the meeting time was changed to evening, the committee met almost every month with the Recreation Board and the Athletic Association.  Among the accomplishments in 2009 was the tot lot and basketball court a Penn's Ridge, replacement of the outdoor exercise equipment in the park, the park tennis and basketball courts were reconditioned, plans were begun for the amphitheater, the five acre parcel (behind the community center) was graded and seeded, and rest rooms were installed at Braden and Lafayette fields.  Egolf said that the committee had a very successful meeting last Monday.  Next year, Supervisor Rogers will be chair and assistant chair will be Supervisor Billings.  The Recreation Board priority list, part of its five year plan, has top priority.
  • Community Relations - Supervisor Miller - said that the last meeting was cancelled and that in January, Chuss will chair the committee and Howell will be assistant chairman.
  • Finance and Administration - Supervisor Nicholas - said that the committee met on December 9 and reviewed the monthly finances.  She said that they Township did rather well and is $700,000 "up."  Of that, $270,000 will go to the carryover accrual.  There should be $500,000 in total carryover for bills at the beginning of the year.  The committee also reviewed agenda procedures, community center rentals and rates, the police server, evaluation forms, a fire truck, the public works garage, goal setting, the police retirement plan, and wrestling building rentals.

Howell introduced the new Supervisors, Michele Rogers and David Billings.  Rogers will be chairing the Parks & Recreation Committee and Billings will head the Finance & Administration Committee. 

Township Manager's Report - Schnaedter - said that his written report was before the Board and unless the Board had questions, he had no additional comments.  Howell commented that Forks has never had such well written and organized manager's reports.

Engineer's Report - Fred Hay - agenda items only.

Solicitor's Report - Kline - said that Gary Strausser has filed another lawsuit against the Township and this time also against Township Solicitor Kline and Supervisor Chairman Howell claiming that his civil rights have been violated by the enforcement of the Township's cash escrow requirements and plan filing deadlines - the same rules that apply to all developers.  Kline said that Mr. Strausser has signed contracts agreeing to the cash escrow requirements and now he says that they deprive him of his constitutional rights.   Kline offered that the suit has no merit whatsoever and that it is an effort to intimidate and bully the Township.  "The Township has not and will not give in to such tactics," said Kline.  All developers must "abide the rules specified by State law."  

Kline also said that he heard from Alfero Construction's owner who wanted to know why their land development plan was rejected.  The Alfero plan was rejected by the BoS at its December 3rd meeting because there was no activity and the engineer's comments (and letter) were ignored.  If the Township does not act within a certain amount of time, a plan can be deemed approved.  And, the Board had to act in order to avoid a deemed approval.  The developer did not show up at the Planning Commission (PC) meeting so the PC recommended rejection.  The developer did not show up at the BoS meeting either.   Kline said that Alfero's engineer apparently did not advise him of the correspondence and meeting dates.  Alfero asked the Board's consideration and told Kline that he plans to appear before the Board at the January 4 meeting. 

Chuss questioned having a regular business meeting after the January 4th Re-Org meeting and was reminded that if one wasn't held then, it would have to be held on the first Thursday - January 7th - and that the BoS customarily has the regular meeting following the Re-Org meeting.

UNFINISHED BUSINESS

Final Adoption of 2010 Budget (Jim Farley, Finance Manager) - Howell remarked that the budget process was an arduous task led by (Finance Manager) Farley and Schnaedter, who kept the process on schedule, met with staff, met with the board, and complied with statute requirements. 

Farley said that the process began in October with (open to the public) work sessions with department heads.  It continued with the first draft submission and its posting on the Township website.  On November 19th the draft was tentatively adopted by the Board.  It was available for public view on both the website and at the Township office.

Revenues are projected at $7.483 million against (projected) expenses of $7.386 million.  The $96,000 surplus will be used to build the yearend carryover.  The purpose of the carryover is to fund the first few months of the year.  There is no revenue stream in the first few months of the year - until the tax bills are mailed out and payments are received. 

Farley said that the goal is to hold the line on expenses and look for the most frugal ways to do business while keeping services where they are now.  Egolf made the motion to accept the 2010 budget, Chuss seconded, and the vote was 5:0.  Howell noted that taxes are not being raised and it looks like the Township is in pretty good shape.

Bethlehem Army Reserve Center (Fred Hay, Township Engineer) - Hay explained that the engineer's letter from December 4th and the Army Reserve land development plan, to join two lots, were in the BoS packets. 

Zoning Officer Weis said that the lot line adjustment is part of the approval for the land development.  Chuss said that he thought the Board was to see a presentation of the project. 

A representative of the US Army Corps of Engineers was there to explain the plan and why the Army Reserve is leaving its Bethlehem facility for a new home in Forks - it is because of BRAC, Base Realignment And Closure.  The new site is composed of lots 15 & 16 in Fort James III - on the same side of Braden Boulevard as Weyerhaeuser and just north of it.  It will be home to a 39,000 square foot two story training facility - for 200 reservists, a maintenance facility for military equipment, and unheated storage. 

Chuss said that a presentation was given to the Planning Commission (PC) and that the PC recommended (to the Board) that the Board approve the plan.  However, the Board gives final approval and it likes to know what it is approving.  The same presentation would help.  Howell agreed and said that the Board at least deserves the same presentation.  Nicholas said that she's never had someone come in and say that this is what they want and give no presentation.  She added that the PC is an advisory board only.

Egolf said that he believes the developer (the Army Corps)  should follow the usual procedures and that the BoS should have a full presentation similar to, or the same as, the one given to the PC.  The meeting will be advertised and anyone in the community who wants to see the plans will be aware that the meeting is scheduled. 

Chuss asked if there will be any time implications.  Kline said that the BoS at the last meeting indicated that time was running out and asked the Army to give a time extension.  Zoning Officer Weis contacted Michael Baker, Jr. Inc. and got a letter dated 12/7 granting a 30 day time extension and asking that the agenda item be tabled until the meeting of 12/17.  Kline said that there may be a problem if this goes past January 11th (12/11 letter date confirmed by Weis) without another time extension.

Kline advised staff to be sure the item is on the January 4th BoS agenda and he told the Army representatives to be certain that someone be at that meeting to discuss the land development and the intended uses.  The Board must act on the plan and the lot consolidation at that meeting.

Egolf made a motion to postpone the Bethlehem Army Reserve Center Land Development to the January 4th meeting to review all plans and consider granting approval.  Miller seconded and the vote was 5:0.

NEW BUSINESS

01.  Public Works Facility Presentation / Approval – Kimmel Bogrette (Rick Schnaedter, Township Manager) - The two hour and 24 minute public works garage discussion was described by Sara Satullo in her Express Times article.  Please read it for an accurate summary.  FAC will try, at a later date, to post a short version of the discussion to augment the newspaper piece. 

Added 12/28/2009:  On December 28th, the Morning Call published Christopher Baxter's thorough article and companion summary piece on the cost of building green.

02.  Board Agenda Policy (Rick Schnaedter, Township Manager) - A single motion was made by Egolf to table agenda items 2, 3, and 7 until the January 17th BoS meeting.  The vote was 5:0.

03.  2010 Goal Setting Session (Rick Schnaedter, Township Manager) - A single motion was made by Egolf to table agenda items 2, 3, and 7 until the January 17th BoS meeting.  The vote was 5:0.

04. Fire Truck Purchase / PEMA Loan (Jim Farley, Finance Manager / Bryan Weis, Fire Chief) - Farley explained that the fire truck purchase is part of the Fire Department's 25 year plan.  The net cost of the truck is $544,753.  So far $106,824 has been accrued.  The fire capital purchase allowance for 2009 is $200,000 and in 2010 it is $100,000.  In addition, the Fire Company will apply for a PEMA loan of $100,000.  The remaining $38,000 will come from the Board's "discretionary fund."  Currently that fund has a balance of $561,000.

Fire Chief Bryan Weis explained that this is for an engine pumper truck to replace the 1983 one.  The new engine will meet all current safety standards, be more multi-functional, and have greater flexibility.  The next vehicle scheduled for replacement is in five years. 

Howell asked Kline if the Township must apply for the PEMA loan.  Kline said that PEMA takes the position that the Township must guarantee the payment of the debt, therefore the Township will have debt. 

Nicholas said that she was told at a Finance & Administration Committee meeting that the engine price would not exceed $500,000 and that no money would be coming from the discretionary fund.  Weis said that that was a four year old number and the EPA changes have upped the cost of vehicles.  Farley said that the figures he was working with at the committee meetings were from the 25 year plan which was created about seven years ago. 

Nicholas said that she thinks the 25 year plan should be updated.  Farley agreed and said that the plan was developed when the Township was experiencing significant growth and that is not the case now.

Howell offered that there is no question that the new fire truck is needed.  Nicholas made the motion to purchase, Chuss seconded, and the vote was 5:0.

05.  Police Server Replacement – EZ Micro (Jim Farley, Finance Manager) - Farley said that the police department server was installed in 2006.  It was an emergency installation at the time and it is now time to change it.  The replacement unit will put the department into a terminal/server environment.  It can stand alone or connect into a network.  The current server does not work with the laptops in the patrol cars. 

Approval tonight will mean placing the new server in service in January.

Nicholas made the motion to purchase the server at $8,360.  The vote was 5:0.

06.  Fire and Vehicle Rescue Assistance Agreement with the Borough of Stockertown (Bryan Weis, Fire Chief) - Howell said that Stockertown is asking for a definite term of five years so that it can budget for fire coverage. 

Chief Weis said that the relationship with Stockertown has been good and that the revenues earned exceed expenses.  He suggested adding a sentence to the terms for review and adjustment for economic conditions.  Nicholas agreed and said, "A five year contract locked in at a certain price is way too long."

Kline said that Stockertown wants assurance that the contract is firm for five years but if the Board says it is going to be periodically reviewed for costs, then the contract is totally "open ended" for the future.  The Board would consider using the CPI (Consumer Price Index) if Stockertown will agree to it.

Egolf suggested lowering the number of years.  Weis said that there is language in the agreement that either party can terminate it with 60 days notice.

Nicholas said that the current contract is year to year and if Forks notifies Stockertown by a prescribed deadline of what the new rate will be so that they can budget, it can stay year to year. 

Chuss made a motion for a three year contract extension.  Egolf seconded and the motion passed 5:0. 

07.  Comprehensive Plan (tabled previous meeting) (Dean Turner, Planning Commission) - A single motion was made by Egolf to table agenda items 2, 3, and 7 until the January 17th BoS meeting.  The vote was 5:0.

Executive Session - There was no Executive Session and the meeting was adjourned.

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Sunday, August 30, 2009

Public Works Garage - Bidders' Presentations

Reprinted from the FAC website: 

Three architectural firms will make public presentations before the Board of Supervisors.  The three finalists, chosen by the Public Works Standing Committee, were selected from a field of 43 bidders.

The first presentation will be on Monday, August 31st at 7 PM.  The second and third presentations will be on Tuesday, September 1st at 7 PM and 8:15 PM respectively.  All will be held in the Municipal Building meeting room.  All workshops are open to the public. 

Sunday, May 31, 2009

Public Works 5-Year Plans & proposed new garage – Workshop notes – 5/21/09

The 6:30 PM workshop began with DPW Director Mark Roberts’ presentations of the four DPW 5-year plans, the first ever created for the Public Works Department.  The session ended one hour and forty minutes later - after the presentation of the proposed new public works garage.  Both newspapers were represented.  Please read Christopher Baxter (Morning Call) and Tony Nauroth (Express Times) for more on the new proposed garage.

According to Township Manager Rick Schnaedter, these plans are “liquid documents” and are to reviewed every year and changed as conditions mandate.  Roberts began the process of replacing outdated and dangerous equipment when he began his position with the Township two years ago.

1.  DPW Parks & Recreation 5-Year Plan:

There are four men in the parks crew.  They are responsible for grass mowing and trimming, soccer and football goal posts, playground equipment, ball field preparation and upkeep, trash pickup, painting of park structures, maintenance and winterization of rest rooms, signs, tree trimming/removal/installation, landscaping, week control spraying, correcting drainage problems in the municipal complex, equipment maintenance, sinkhole repair, and snow removal for the complex.  They have 44.15 acres of basins to maintain as well as 204.25 acres of park property.  They mow 180 acres.  (The plan details the basins and parks properties.  Copies of all the plans are available at the Municipal Building.)

There is an existing master plan for the Community Park.  It includes additional parking off of Sycamore and two ball fields with two soccer field overlays (for each) for the as-yet-to-be graded five acres between the park woods and the College Park development – on the former DeWalt farm.  Roberts said that he hopes that the Township will not lose the parking it has been using behind the old Laneco building.

There are many memorials in the Community Park and a plan must yet be developed for their maintenance.  There will be additional trees planted in the arboretum.  Forty have been recently planted.  The oaks along the municipal entrance drive have had some problems; one has died and has been removed and two more will need to be removed.  This is due to root system damage incurred during the municipal complex construction.

The park plan includes the recent purchase of a replacement pick-up truck and in 2010, the hiring of an additional employee.  This is especially necessary now that new tot lots and neighborhood parks are being planned.  These new parks will require the purchase of more equipment as well.

  • Comments: 
    • Supervisor Nicholas said that she objects to the plan’s temporary “naming” of the parks.  These are not the official names and she feels that if they are in the plan, the names will “stick.” If someone donates land, that park will be named for the donor.
    • Chairman Howell noted that the ad hoc committee for the Comprehensive Plan has raised the same park naming issue.  Currently the Comp Plan is using park addresses to differentiate the parks and does not use tenant farmers names. 
    • Nicholas noted, too, that the springhouse on Bushkill Drive is not mentioned in the plan.  Roberts said that the Township does mow the springhouse area. It will be added to the plan list.

Roberts added that over the last three years, the township has removed over 34 trees from the recreation trails.  They were damaged during the construction of the trails.

2.  Sewer Department 5-Year Plan:

One of the three sewer department employees recently left and the remaining two have stepped up to fill the void.  Roberts stated that they are doing a terrific job maintaining the system and they are taking training from the State to become qualified to run the pump station.  At moment, Township Engineer Fred Hay has the only license to run the pump station.

The sewer department is responsible for maintaining all 74.1 miles of sewer lines.  The department is responsible also for manhole flushing and stabilization - there are 2035 manholes.  They have worked with the sewer subcontractor to drain the manholes before the sewer line was televised (to check for storm water infiltration.) 

Some of the easement issues that the sewer department encounters include:

  • Homeowners planting trees in the easements - over the sewer lines.
  • Manholes enclosed by homeowner fences.
  • Fences erected in the easements.

In fact, in the last few days, three homeowners were stopped before they erected fences in the rights of way.  Zoning Officer Tim Weis added that fence issues are being addressed by advising homeowners that fences in the easements are being put there at their own risk and must be removed so that the facilities can be maintained.  Weis said that a lot of the fences go back 30 and 40 years - prior to keeping track of permits.

Supervisor Nicholas said that no fences should be allowed there at all.  Roberts noted that his department is about to remove a fence and a shed because the manhole cannot be reached.  Nicholas remarked that the homeowners should be charged for these removals and that taxpayers should not be paying for the "road department to take down a fence that somebody else put up..."

Chairman Howell suggested that there be an article "at the next occasion" describing the issues and possible actions should access be needed.  Supervisor Egolf noted that the (5-year) plan contains a provision to develop a timeline to advise residents to remove fences and sheds that are blocking access to the sewer lines.  He added that homeowners should be notified that it is their responsibility to remove them by a certain time and if they do not, the township will - and bill them for it.

Projects for 2009 include:

  • The Old Mill Road sewer line restoration (replacing five manholes and over 4,000 feet of pipe.
  • The Meco Road force main and valve (the force main has collapsed and the line will be replaced to Richmond Road.
  • Replacement of the Red Barn sewer line (it has a big sag).

Roberts said that the township should research the inflows/outflows for future meters and that it is important to do it now because the township is being charged only on the "word" of Easton.  He referenced Henning Holmgaard's EAJSA (Easton Area Joint Sewer Authority) report to the Supervisors at the May 7 meeting.

Roberts also said that he would like to restart the installation of exterior meters and he would like to make it a three year project.  This project was started and stopped in the past.  Right now the crew has to get access to everyone's basements to read the meters.  Outside meters would allow the crew to do it at their own pace.

Egolf asked if the equipment listed in the plan will be in the department's budget request for the following year.  Roberts said that the department should have its own camera truck.  In the last two years the township has spent $50,000 with a subcontractor to televise sewer lines.  It costs $190,000 to own a camera truck.  He said that the crew will be trained in how to handle it.  Also, Roberts said that the 1996 jet truck needs to be replaced.  It is a big ticket item and needs to be researched.

Supervisor Chuss said that there is $2 million in the sewer fund that can be used to purchase these items.  Nicholas said that that money must stay in the fund as it is designated for the for the sewer line along the river.  It cannot be used for equipment purchases. 

Howell added that another possible capital expense will be the flow meters.  They will insure that Forks is charged correctly by Easton.  Chuss suggested a subcommittee to research the costs of everything listed in the plan.

3.  Facilities - 5-Year Plan:

Currently one employee is responsible for the internal and external maintenance of the administration building, the police and fire stations, the Community Center, the wrestling building, the parks garage, the public works garage, and the storage units scattered throughout the township.

The employee (Pete Gheller) has weekly maintenance schedules for generators and building inspections.  He does monthly checks of underground tanks and quarterly checks of heating units and water (testing).

In 2009, 13 manholes in the Municipal Complex were found to be holding water - 8 to 10 inches.  Holes were drilled to allow them to drain.  The entire complex's electrical conduits were under that water.

The Community Center roof repairs (already approved) are being looked at and a new maintenance roof inspection will be instituted.  The Police Department duct work is being looked at and sagging gutters have been repaired.  Drains were not installed at construction and draining pads will be installed around some of the doorways because the pavers have shifted. 

4.  Public Works Department - 5-Year Plan:

The Public Works Department has 10 active employees.  One other is currently out on disability.  The department is responsible for maintaining 56 miles of township roadways.  There is an employee training program that includes traffic control, equipment operation safety training, how to handle electrical issues when trees go down, and confined space entry. 

The department is responsible for road maintenance, snow removal, road bank mowing, trash pickup along the roadways, vehicle maintenance on all township vehicles, street signs, street lights, tree trimming, responding to residents' concerns, street sweeping, guide rail maintenance, weed spraying, line painting, road kill removal, animal control, Forks Days support, drainage issues, leaf collection, and sink hole repair.

Roberts said that he is concerned for the future because Forks grew so fast and so many developments came in at the same time, therefore all the roads will start showing wear around the same time - in 8 to 10 years.  He said that the Liquid Fuels money will not be able to handle the need repair expenses.   Roberts said that he would like to start using different treatments on the roads now. 

Some of the older neighborhoods need major roadwork.  Some have curbs with only a 2 inch reveal.  The Board will have to decide who pays to fix the curbing, since technically, the homeowner owns the curb.  Or, will the Board consider the curb replacements as part of the street repair projects?

Roberts thanked the Board for the recent equipment purchases, three new trucks and the John Deere mower with the 21 ft. boom reach.  Roberts said that the Township now owns a paver that can "put down a flat mat." 

Roberts said that he is comfortable with the current manpower level.  Township growth may change that though.

Schnaedter noted that prior to the new equipment purchases, the Township was paying nearly $40,000 per year in repair costs.  He said that the annual bond payment is not much more than that.

Public Works Garage:

Schnaedter summarized the history of the current public works garage.  He said that in 1954 when Forks had less than 5000 residents, the garage was moved from its old site to the one on Frost Hollow Road.  As the township grew, the footprint was expanded.  The sewer operation is deployed from the Frost Hollow site.  Road salt is stored there as are materials used by the DWP.  There is also a pistol range for police department practice and a dedicated area for brush and yard waste. 

In January 2003, Supervisors acknowledged the site's deficiencies and the Architectural Studio was hired to do a feasibility study on where a new facility should be located.  The study recommended the eastern side of the 53 acre township site on the southeast corner of Newlins and Richmond Roads - with the balance of the site devoted to recreation.  (The site of a to-be-planned township park.  See FAC 4/16/2009 Recreation Hearing Notes.)

In 2008 "staff" made the Public Works and Finance & Administration Committees aware of the need for a new garage and Schnaedter urged that it be the number one project.  He is still convinced of the urgent need for it as the facility continues to deteriorate and more equipment is stored outside.  The township insurer has cited the facility for unsafe working conditions and the onsite well water is polluted and per the recommendation of the testing laboratory, cannot even be used to wash hands.  There are also issues of raw sewage at the site.

Roberts gave a slide presentation of the conditions at the public works garage and other township storage buildings.  The issues described/shown include:

  • Equipment is stored in five township locations because there is no room at the garage.  There are only two doors and there are five trucks inside.  Employees cannot walk around the equipment.
  • The safety committee said that parts room stacking is too high but there is no place else to put the parts.
  • There is no room for a new computerized sign machine (approved three years ago at a cost of $23,000) because there is no room and no controlled, clean environment for it.  Employees cannot stand up straight in the current second floor sign room.  The doorway is just over five feet high and everything must be carried up stairs.
  • There is stormwater drainage through the salt building - into the storm drain which flows to the Delaware River.
  • There is no oil separator and everything goes into the storm drain.
  • The mechanic's pit is a safety hazard.  If there is a fire, he has no way to get out.  He welds in the pit.
  • The chemical (hydraulic oil and solvents) storage area is a fire hazard.  The chemicals are stored next to the mechanic's pit.  There is no place else to store them.
  • The trucks with plows do not fit and cannot be worked on in the garage.  They must be welded outside in the snow and rain.
  • There is only one toilet and one sink for 10 employees.
  • The break room is next to the toilet.
  • The water is tested quarterly and the coliform count is too high to count.
  • There have been two septic system failures that have flooded the lunch room.
  • The workers' lockers are only 12 inches wide and must hold uniforms, boots, rain gear, etc.
  • There is no security for the garage doors.
  • The heaters run all winter because there is very little insulation.  Equipment stays wet if washed. The "wet" vehicles cost $160,000.
  • People dump things, including refrigerators and some hazardous materials that require payment in order to dispose of properly, in front of the garage doors.  Employees have to clear it away to open the doors.
  • The back wall of the storage building is collapsing (due to sinkholes) - located near the wrestling building.

Schnaedter said that there is a a regular meeting agenda item to ask the Board to authorize a request for a proposal to go out to architect/engineering firms.  The proposal would then be reviewed by either the Public Works or Finance & Administration Committees (at the Supervisors option).  Once a firm has been chosen, a series of public hearings will be held and input from the Supervisors, the Planning Commission, and staff will be solicited.  The design and exact location will be then be determined based on the information obtained.  The firm will also serve as construction manager and be responsible for completing the building on time and within the budget.  The estimated cost for this service is approximately $6,000.

Finance Manager Farley said that this is a good time to "get the best bang for the buck" because prices are low.  The cost of this type of facility are very low right now, however, if the housing market improves, costs will go up.

Farley said that cost effective financing for the project is a challenge.  Municipal bond rates are currently very low.  And, another challenge is finding a way to do this project without raising taxes.

Farley explained that refinancing the current debt liability of approximately $847,000 (which is due to be paid off in 2023) by extending the bond by four years and adding the $3.2 million to it, will result in an increased annual payment of $23,000 to $26,000.  The goal would be to pay it off in 19 years.  The new public works facility will have a 40-50 year life cycle.  Farley's proposal was prepared with the help of Gary Pulcini, the Township's financial consultant.

  • Supervisors' Discussion:
    • Nicholas asked why the proposal (in the Supervisors' packets) did not show a payment for the new trucks for 2009.  Farley explained that the 2009 payment is coming from the Liquid Fuels fund.  The payment appears for the 2010 schedule and the total payment will remain level for 19 years.
    • Howell asked how the estimated $3.2 million figure was arrived at.  Schnaedter said that he spoke with officials of Williams and New Britain Townships and is confident that $3.2 million is a good number.  Howell said that he thought the process was to evaluate needs, to sit down with the architect/engineer, and then to arrive at a number.  Schnaedter acknowledged that they will come in with a more accurate figure.
    • Howell said that the feasibility study in his packet has pages removed.  Schnaedter said that the complete study was given to the Board twice before - several months ago.  Both Howell and Nicholas asked for another full copy of it. 
    • Howell also said that not all the lands owned by the Township in 2003 were listed in the 2003 study.  Schnaedter said that the study looked at three sites.  Supervisor Miller offered that they were Glover Road (now the fire tower site), the Remaly tract (the 53 acres), and the Dewalt farm ("gobbled up by a developer").  Howell asked if the township owned the 23 acres at Braden in 2003.  (It did.)  Schnaedter offered that Braden has issues because of the airport.  Howell said that he thinks the location is an issue and that the site is the "800 pound gorilla in the room."  He objects to the assumption that there is only one site. 
    • Howell said that he objects to the two agenda items, one to revamp the existing bond issue at $3.2 million and the other to solicit bids for an appropriate engineer.  He offered that all Supervisors agree that the garage is needed.  Howell said that he doesn't write the agenda; it is done by staff and individual Supervisors.  He added that there is no discussion of whether or not the building is needed and is approved.  If it is approved then the process to getting the bond bids and then bids for an architect/engineer should begin.
    • Chuss said that he went to Supervisor courses last year and learned that the chairman oversees the agenda.  He said that all they are looking to do now is to review the five year public works plans and "add, change, delete."  Howell said that a Board endorsed five-year plan is a "word of art" and that approving a five-year plan does not approve every line item in it.  He added that anyone looking at the agenda or the Township website would not know that they were approving a building tonight.  It's in the bond figure.  "It's not very transparent," Howell said.
    • Mr. Pulcini was asked by Solicitor Kline to "shed some light."  Mr. Pulcini said that no documents can be submitted for funding until (a) the building is approved and a cost estimate is done and (b) the contractual regulation per the IRS code must be followed.  Farley asked the length of time to get financing.  Mr. Pulcini said that it takes 1.5 months until the bonds are bid and the rate is locked in.  After that the Board must approve an ordinance.  It will be 2.5 months until the money is in the township account.  Farley said that he added the agenda item.  He apologized for the wording of the item.  He said that he added the item because last year the township lost an opportunity to save $300,000 through refinancing because there wasn't enough time to bring it to the Board before the market turned.  Howell noted that transparency for the public is an issue.
  • Residents' comments:
    • Fernando Cabrera - VP of the Lafayette Park Green Homeowners Association - said that the site is less than a mile from his development.  He wondered if this was the absolute, dedicated location and that considering the level of upkeep required for the Municipal Complex, he recommended the five acre tract behind the Community Park.  He also asked if the the $3.2 million includes the cost to decommission the existing location.  Schnaedter said that the cost is not included and that the existing site will be used for police training, pipe storage, and yard waste storage.  Roberts said that the site Mr. Cabrera suggests is up against homes and that wherever it is, it will be a very clean facility.  Nicholas offered that the Township should be certain that the existing site is brought up to code and that money is set aside to do that.  Farley added that the one of the managers of the Township's trash hauler has volunteered to help on a more advanced recycling program.  He has helped two other communities obtain grants for recycling centers.
    • Jeff Braido of Vista Estates said that his and other Vista Estates homeowners' land borders the proposed site.  He said that the homeowners are worried about noise, dust, fumes, and property devaluation.  Mr. Braido said, too, that Riverview Estates will be building homes adjacent to the site as well.  He wondered why the airport property would not be suitable for the facility since at the moment ball fields are being discussed for the airport site and that would mean that it is okay for kids to play there.  Miller said that there are a height restrictions at specific distances from the runway and a building cannot be put up there.  Nicholas offered that there is a two story house there now.  Roberts said that there are light restrictions as well as prohibitions on plantings that might attract deer or birds and he said that to put it on the rear third of the property would mean building a major roadway to get to Uhler Road.
    • Ken Nagy wondered why the land currently used at the airport cannot be reconfigured.  He said that the value of the airport property will skyrocket with the Chrin Route 33 interchange on Tatamy Road.  Mr. Nagy added that there may be a grant violation with the 53 acre site since it was purchased with Northampton County open space money - a $200,000 grant - and this type of facility is not allowed on "open space."  He suggested placing the facility on land zoned commercial or industrial, where there are no residences.  Mr. Nagy also said that he is concerned about the "liquid thing."  He said that in his experience, when dealing with liquid, living documents, they grow.  He said that the Township needs hard numbers for the cost of the new building and for the cost to renovate the current site since most of the buildings there need to be torn down.  The $3.2 million is probably not realistic.
    • Rick Petro - Assistant Executive Director of the Vista Estates Homeowners Association - said that the 242 residents are against it at the proposed location.  He thought that all other resources and locations should be exhausted first.  He added that the $3.2 million is excessive and that the bells and whistles should be cut to bring the cost down.  Howell explained that it is difficult for a municipality to acquire land because it must be purchased at the price of its highest and best use.  The Township is competing with developers for land.  Mr. Petro said that the land next to MetEd (on Meco) is up for "short sale."  Howell said that that land is Towne Center 2 and is owned by Mr. Zawarski.  Mr. Petro suggested that they research it.  He added that he is strongly opposed to the proposed location for all the obvious reasons as well as because there will be increased truck traffic on Richmond Road.

Howell said that the process is just beginning tonight and that there will be other opportunities for public comment and contribution.  He added that the Planning Commission will also be involved in the plan approval process.  There will be hearings and workshops.